SSJ Goku, SSJ Vegeta, Piccolo vs SSJ Gohan, SSJ Future Trunks

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SSJ Goku, SSJ Vegeta, Piccolo vs SSJ Gohan, SSJ Future Trunks
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+ Clearin	Aug 12 2011, 03:30 AM Post #16
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Most of those just prove Gohan > Goku, not a single one implies x2, of course nothing implies it's less than x2 either. Quote: 6. Cell comments that Gohan is exceptionally tough, but compared to who? Nobody else but Goku, of course. Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P14.2 Context: after Gohan isn’t fazed much by Cell’s attack Cell: “...Well, this is a surprise…You’re exceptionally tough, aren’t you?…” Compared to no one? He might have just been saying it as a general statement maybe? Edit: Oh you said x2 stronger than Vegeta, never mind. Edited by Clearin, Aug 12 2011, 03:31 AM.



+ Pyrus	Aug 12 2011, 03:32 AM Post #17
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Quote: To be fair (at least to my memory) he had not been fighting cell nearly as long. His attacks were seen as more brutal and everybody thought he'd died, including Cell himself, except Goku. Quote: No no no no, what I mean is, to think that Goku isn't weaker than Gohan is silly. Gohan is stronger than Goku...fact. But to think that Gohan is WAY stronger I just don't agree with. If Cell = 20 I have Goku as 17-17.5, and Gohan as 18.5-19.5 But Gohan's thoughts on Goku's power contradict such a small gap. Also, Cell has to be a lot more powerful than Gohan, more than a simple gap like that, or nobody would have been afraid of his full power like they were. Even while Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 at the time, everybody was shuttering at Cell's power. They were amazed at Gohan's, but they weren't in utter fear.
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~~Destiny~~	Aug 12 2011, 03:33 AM Post #18
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	Kamikaze Pyro http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8334890&t=8308842 Gohan destroys everybody on the opposing team unless he's in wuss mode. This will turn into Goku vs Gohan, since Goku would one-shot Trunks, and Gohan would one-shot Vegeta and Piccolo. Since Gohan's more powerful, he'd win. Okay come on now there power is not that far to be a one shot. One of the more overused terms on this forum if you ask me. Gohan would win though I feel Vegeta's undying resilience would keep him in the game far far longer than anyone hopes.



+ Pyrus	Aug 12 2011, 03:36 AM Post #19
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Sakebi Raitingu Aug 12 2011, 03:33 AM Kamikaze Pyro http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8334890&t=8308842 Gohan destroys everybody on the opposing team unless he's in wuss mode. This will turn into Goku vs Gohan, since Goku would one-shot Trunks, and Gohan would one-shot Vegeta and Piccolo. Since Gohan's more powerful, he'd win. Okay come on now there power is not that far to be a one shot. One of the more overused terms on this forum if you ask me. Gohan would win though I feel Vegeta's undying resilience would keep him in the game far far longer than anyone hopes. It didn't keep him in the game against Freeza or Initial Perfect Cell. I don't know why it'd be any different here.
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POOHEAD189	Aug 12 2011, 03:39 AM Post #20
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	Quote: Okay come on now there power is not that far to be a one shot. One of the more overused terms on this forum if you ask me. Gohan would win though I feel Vegeta's undying resilience would keep him in the game far far longer than anyone hopes. I agree, people say one shot way too much. Quote: His attacks were seen as more brutal and everybody thought he'd died, including Cell himself, except Goku. My manga memory may not be completely accurate, but the entire time they hated the fact that Gohan was fighting anyway even though he was stronger than Goku. They were reacting to him being a child, not being weak. Plus, Gohan not fighting back very much surely raised their fears. Quote: But Gohan's thoughts on Goku's power contradict such a small gap. Also, Cell has to be a lot more powerful than Gohan, more than a simple gap like that, or nobody would have been afraid of his full power like they were. Even while Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 at the time, everybody was shuttering at Cell's power. They were amazed at Gohan's, but they weren't in utter fear. That sort of contradicts itself doesnt it? Despite Gohan totally outclassing cell, they still feared cell. That doesn't mean Cell was more powerful than SSJ2 Gohan though. Then why should they be reliable when Cell fought Gohan earlier? Edited by POOHEAD189, Aug 12 2011, 03:40 AM.
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+ Pyrus	Aug 12 2011, 03:52 AM Post #21
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Quote: My manga memory may not be completely accurate, but the entire time they hated the fact that Gohan was fighting anyway even though he was stronger than Goku. They were reacting to him being a child, not being weak. Plus, Gohan not fighting back very much surely raised their fears. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. Quote: That sort of contradicts itself doesnt it? Despite Gohan totally outclassing cell, they still feared cell. That doesn't mean Cell was more powerful than SSJ2 Gohan though. Then why should they be reliable when Cell fought Gohan earlier? No, it doesn't contradict anything, so don't try to dismiss everything beforehand to justify a tiny gap between Goku and Gohan, man. They didn't think Cell could get much more powerful, and they were proven wrong. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said they "feared" him. They were just really amazed at his power, and the effects of his power-up seemed more evident than Gohan's, like when Krillin commented that the "entire earth was shaking" when Cell powered up.
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+ Clearin	Aug 12 2011, 03:56 AM Post #22
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I think he meant it contradicted the fact they would be so scared of Cell's power knowing Gohan was MUCH stronger.



POOHEAD189	Aug 12 2011, 04:05 AM Post #23
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	Quote: I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. Well, you said that everyone thought he died and that cell was being more brutal. I think that was them being more worried that he was a child and that gohan wasnt fighting back than the fact that Gohan was way weaker. Quote: No, it doesn't contradict anything, so don't try to dismiss everything beforehand to justify a tiny gap between Goku and Gohan, man. They didn't think Cell could get much more powerful, and they were proven wrong. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said they "feared" him. They were just really amazed at his power, and the effects of his power-up seemed more evident than Gohan's, like when Krillin commented that the "entire earth was shaking" when Cell powered up. Well, im not trying to dismiss everything all at once , and we're sort of talking about Gohan and Cell now instead of Goku... But teen pretty much explained it well enough. And yes they were amazed, but maybe Cell was fighting a passive gohan at the level he fought Goku at (not at Goku's level, but he did not power up for Gohan), then he went full power later, showing "holy crap, he can get more powerful."
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+ Pyrus	Aug 12 2011, 04:09 AM Post #24
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Ah, I see. I don't intend to change your mind. We have different views then.
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Kruegs Outlandish	Aug 12 2011, 05:02 AM Post #25
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	just to throw a bit in without necessarily proving anything... Is it possible that Gohan was overestimating Goku in the sense that Goku should have been stronger than Gohan and not simply as strong as Gohan. For example, the gap may or may not have been small, but that would not have stopped Gohan from thinking that Goku and Cell perhap maybe even should have been 1.5 times or even 2 times as strong as he was... it could go either way really.



~~Destiny~~	Aug 12 2011, 07:37 AM Post #26
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	Kamikaze Pyro http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8336423&t=8308842 Sakebi Raitingu Aug 12 2011, 03:33 AM Kamikaze Pyro http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8334890&t=8308842 Gohan destroys everybody on the opposing team unless he's in wuss mode. This will turn into Goku vs Gohan, since Goku would one-shot Trunks, and Gohan would one-shot Vegeta and Piccolo. Since Gohan's more powerful, he'd win. Okay come on now there power is not that far to be a one shot. One of the more overused terms on this forum if you ask me. Gohan would win though I feel Vegeta's undying resilience would keep him in the game far far longer than anyone hopes. It didn't keep him in the game against Freeza or Initial Perfect Cell. I don't know why it'd be any different here. Because Gohan isn't in SSJ2 is why. Which is pretty much how big the gap was between Frieza and Vegeta at the time. Hardly the fight against Cell seemed Vegeta was letting he's arrogance get the best of himself. Though other times we've seen him last longer then he should. Kid Buu, Fat Buu, hell even the saiyan fight should Vegeta had guts.



+ Pyrus	Aug 12 2011, 02:49 PM Post #27
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Sakebi Raitingu Aug 12 2011, 07:37 AM Kamikaze Pyro http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8336423&t=8308842 Sakebi Raitingu Aug 12 2011, 03:33 AM Kamikaze Pyro http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8334890&t=8308842 Gohan destroys everybody on the opposing team unless he's in wuss mode. This will turn into Goku vs Gohan, since Goku would one-shot Trunks, and Gohan would one-shot Vegeta and Piccolo. Since Gohan's more powerful, he'd win. Okay come on now there power is not that far to be a one shot. One of the more overused terms on this forum if you ask me. Gohan would win though I feel Vegeta's undying resilience would keep him in the game far far longer than anyone hopes. It didn't keep him in the game against Freeza or Initial Perfect Cell. I don't know why it'd be any different here. Because Gohan isn't in SSJ2 is why. Which is pretty much how big the gap was between Frieza and Vegeta at the time. Hardly the fight against Cell seemed Vegeta was letting he's arrogance get the best of himself. Though other times we've seen him last longer then he should. Kid Buu, Fat Buu, hell even the saiyan fight should Vegeta had guts. Freeza was using around 3% of his true power against Vegeta, which equated to roughly 3,600,000 to Vegeta's roughly 2,400,000-2,500,000. That's less than a 2x advantage yet he slaughtered Vegeta. SSj Kid Gohan would do the same thing. Against Kid Boo, Vegeta was down in seconds and then was wished back to life later on, and still went down in seconds once again. Against Fat Boo, once Boo got angry, Vegeta was basically owned in one grand move, and then the rest of the fight was him being demolished. He would have died had he not been rescued. The Saiyan fight, he was a lot more powerful than anybody there, although I do give him credit for surviving the Genki-Dama.
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